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Bikers' Rights: More Reckless Spinning on HB-137 (FL): Either Abate of Florida's Paid Lobbyist James 'Doc' Reichenbach II, or Rep. Lopez-Cantera and a lot of bikers, must be lying.

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More Reckless Spinning on HB-137 (FL): Either Abate of Florida's Paid Lobbyist James "Doc" Reichenbach II, or Rep. Lopez-Cantera and a lot of bikers, must be lying.
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HEADS UP TO FLORIDA BIKERS RE HB-137 AND SB-802

http://tinyurl.com/2zxun2

http://tinyurl.com/yuzl2r

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-----Original Message-----
From: IronBoltBruce [mailto:Bruce@LdrLongDistanceRider.com]
Sent: Saturday, February 09, 2008 1:47 PM
To: Miami Mike (miamimike@wheelsontheroad.com)
Cc: James 'Doc' Reichenbach II (abatefl@worldnet.att.net); 'bsomm95@cox.net'; 'o07wray@aol.com'
Subject: EITHER DOC REICHENBACH OR LOPEZ-CANTERA IS LYING ABOUT WHAT TRANSPIRED BETWEEN THEM

Mike,

I did not post any of the links containing this damning quote from Lopez-Cantera:

"I recently met with James Reichenbach [abatefl@worldnet.att.net] from ABATE, and after I explained the true intent of this legislation he told me that he would support it."

All I did was reference other people's postings. The full text of Lopez-Cantera's statement can be found in many locations on the Web, including the following:

http://www.triumphrat.net/
841327-post32.html

http://www.bikerornot.com/users/forum/
topic.asp&forumID=13
&parentID=349&pg=4

http://www.advrider.com/forums/
showthread.php?t=274710&page=2

http://www.soflasportbikes.com/
forum/629721-post1.html

http://hdforums.com/m_2527071/tm.htm

http://forums.2wf.com/
showthread.php?t=283&page=2

http://www.bonnevilleamerica.com/
forums/showflat.php?Cat=0&
Number=258668&an=0&page=0

http://www.motorcycle-syndicate.com/user/blogs/
view/name_hawgbodys/id_102/title_i-put-this-info
-on-my-blog-for-those-who-cant/

http://thebikerspot.com/blog/view/id_424

http://clearwaterbiker.biz/
modules.php?name=News&file=showarticle
&postid=4089

EITHER DOC REICHENBACH OR LOPEZ-CANTERA IS LYING ABOUT WHAT TRANSPIRED BETWEEN THEM. If Doc is telling the truth, then not only is Lopez-Cantera lying, but so are all the bikers who posted the links above.

And yes. THIS should clear things up for both sides (ABATE and Bruce). So Mike, please forward this letter to everyone below who received the bullshit spin I am replying to here.

Thanks,

IronBoltBruce

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P.S. to James and his Kool-Aid Kult: Keep up the libel--spreading lies about me, directly or indirectly--and the consequences for you are going to be severe...

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From: Miami Mike [mailto:miamimike@wheelsontheroad.com]
Sent: Saturday, February 09, 2008 1:18 PM
To: Willie Woo; Tito Jimenez; Cliff Frommer; Biker Bonnie (bkrbon@yahoo.com); IronBoltBruce; Bumbles (WOTR); Sallie James (Sun-Sentinel); Dawn Ranish; Debaldone (bellsouth.net); Doob; Doug S (Comcast); Fireman Mark; James Lesniak; Nuke n' Pave Dave; Sallie James (Sun-Sentinel); Jeff (Welt & Rheaume); Joshua M. Entin; KC Kasper (Home); Suzanne (ABATE) @bellsouth.net; Madd Matt; Marcel & Lisa Smett; Martha Heichen (martica101@hotmail.com); Michele Koscielniak Sheerahamed (michele_cpa@bellsouth.net); Nasty; Phantom (phantomstrikes@bellsouth.net); Red Snyder Huttman; Rex J Ford (HOG Palm Bch); Ron Catronio (harleyron@bellsouth.net); Rumblefish Phil; Sonny Michalowski; Stormy (stormy@wheelsontheroad.com); Suzane (ABATE) @aol.com); Lisa smets; Tattoo Dave; Chef Joel; Dee; Axman; Axman; Debbie (AOL); Duke; Vinny; Lou (Soldiers for Jesus) (lousoldier@att.net); Amigo "SFJMC" Florida Soldier; Johness; Red Snyder Huttman; Stacey; Catherine Palmer; Kristen (R&S); Outrider; Joshua M. Entin; Doug S (Juno)
Subject: [Fwd: IronBoltBruce's Article]

This is from Doc Reichenbach about the email I forwarded for IronBoltBruce yesterday.

This should clear things up for both sides (ABATE and Bruce)

MM

-------- Original Message --------
Subject: IronBoltBruce's Article
Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2008 17:49:08 -0600
From: Katherine
To:

Mike it's too bad that people have to read lies such as Bruce is noted for. Abate of Florida does not support this bill and we spoke against it at the committee meeting. We had the votes after working most of the night before the hearing to kill the bill. The sponsor when seeing he was going to lose this bill asked to have it postponed. He has asked for help to rewrite the bill but we see no way to save it as it is completely discriminatroy. IronBoltBruce has as usual fabracated facts. At no time has Abate of Florida, Inc. or myself supported this bill in any form.

Doc Reichenbach
State President
Abate of Florida, Inc.

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POSTING FROM JEFF WRAY...

HB-137 (FL): Who's really on our side? Who's really not?
Name: Jeff Wray
Date Posted: Feb 9, 08 - 4:57 AM
Email: o07wray@aol.com
Message: well, after I made my last post .. I CC'ed ( sent a copy) to all the members of abate I knew, including doc, who promptly blasted this letter to me: QUOTE

Maybe you'd should read everything that has happened since the representative sent out this bogus letter. You're so far behind the times it's pathetic. No one is supporting this bill including me. Maybe you should have watched television three weeks ago when I testified against this bill and got it put back. The representative is going to be at the state meeting and try and convince abate to support this bill so before you send out old news I's really get up to date on what's happening.

Doc

of course I replied:

Doc,

Your saying the Rep miss-quoted you? And at anytime you never indorsed this bill?

But this is not old news, this was forwarded to me via his office TODAY!! that is why I posted it.

And yes I saw the clip on the news... but that was weeks ago.

So I suggest that you find out why after I sent an email to his office about HB137, that I got another copy of his letter saying you endorse it.

So sorry if I am wrong.. but you can see why I would be alarmed.

Jeff Wray

After directly asking Doc if he EVER supported the bill?, or if it's just the Rep lying? This is the reply... watch the wording... at no time does he say the Rep is lying, or that he ever DID indorse the bill... SOMEONE HAS TO BE NOT TELLING THE TRUTH HERE!!! Doc's reply: QUOTE:

I can I sent a letter to the Representative the same day I heard he sent this out. In no way are we supporting this bill. He's going to try and sway the delegation saturday to his side but I'm sure they won't give in. They're taking my bike over my dead body.

Doc

I have just one question: In all the time I've been a member of ABATE (7yrs) I have yet to see a member of the house come to our meeting and try to sell us on a bill that we have already voted not to support??? What the hell's the point??

And did you think I'd didn't bashed for emailing out a simple question, and a statement of FACT! I got a Auto Response from the Rep's office on FEB 7th, so I had to wonder what the hell was going on. But I sure got a response from the LOCK STEP JACK BOOT DOC supporters.. here is a Quote from just one: Quote:

If your information isn't any better than your spelling, you are an idiot. Shame on you for passing out bad information. I have talked to a Representative who is on the committee for HB137 and your statement is false and almost criminal. Did you ever think that the people who want it passed may not be very truthful? There is enough bad info being put out by you and your friends so take me off of your mailing list. Cantera is supposed to be at the February State meeting. The record will be straight after that.

Satch

ABATE of Florida, Inc
Gulf Coast Chapter President
Ride safe and free

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I'm called a liar and criminal,, and a idiot.. Gee and for what? simply looking at the facts and concluding ..

1. The Rep is lying about Doc's support

2. Doc is lying about supporting the bill ( AT ANYTIME!! ) No not now,, he has stated he does not support it (NOW)??

I think its time for ABATE to hire a true Lobbyist and find one who has constituents who's view's on issues are the same as ABATE,, and increase our voting block. Right now we are but a few voices, but with a professional Lobbyist and professional representation,, we would have MANY VOICES!!

God bless Doc... he has done wonders for us in the past, and he is a pivotal part of ABATE. But his continued dual seat on the BOD ( Board Of Directors) Is a livid Conflict of interest..

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RELATED INFO HERE:

http://tinyurl.com/248rt5

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I can only hope that the body of ABATE can see this and move to make changes that will keep us in the spotlight and on the tract to better rights for motorcycles.

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Jeff Wray

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Watch how long it takes for THIS link to get pulled...

http://duval.abateflorida.com/leg/abateduvallegislative.htm

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Source:

http://tinyurl.com/2tnkp8

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